Deconstructing Telangana March

All the spurious critiques, filthy abuses, fretting and fuming rants, and gratuitous remarks on my earlier posts are despatched to where they should belong. The gutter.

Two Important Issues

Now, let us get down to the serious business of examining the two most important issues that need our attention about the 30 September 2012 Telangana March.

1.       The density of the crowd that assembled on the Necklace Road for the Telangana March.

2.       The length and width of the venue occupied by the marchers on the Necklace Road on that day.

Many people are under the impression that the marchers were all over the entire length and breadth of the Necklace Road. They estimate the length of the entire Necklace Road as 4.5 kilometres – from Indira Gandhi statue to a bit after PV Jnanabhoomi.

They assume that I have taken only the snaps that showed a small portion of the entire ‘march’ to arrive at the estimate.

This is not the case.

Only a Tiny Stretch of the Necklace Road

In fact, the marchers were unable to fill the entire area for which the organizers have taken permission from the government. They occupied only a tiny stretch of the Necklace Road. To be precise, the area was from near about the Sonee Food Court till a bit after the point where PV Jnanabhoomi ends.

Anyone who is familiar with the Necklace Road knows that at this part of the stretch there is a place large enough to have a gathering. It is some sort of an ‘island’ between the two roads. Normally this is the place where one finds ice cream vendors. You might also see cars parked there on normal days.

Dais – a makeshift one – was erected straddling the two lanes of the road. It was the spot which was the  the beginning of the ‘march’ crowd. You could find only a handful of people behind the dais. They are mostly organizers or those who were in charge of the logistics.

The crowd stretched from there towards PV Jnanabhoomi and a little bit beyond that.

This actually was the theatre of action on the day of Telangana March. It was’t a Kavaatu or a march. It was merely a gathering; a rally.

Let us look at the photographs published by the various Telugu daily newspapers. You will notice that they printed lyrical captions on the pictures to describe the  March as a grand success. They wanted the readers to believe that a sea of humanity gathered at the Necklace Road, the earth shook under the ‘marching’ feet and Hyderabad was actually jolted!

Eenadu’s Photograph

This is the picture published by Eenadu. I used this in my earlier post. And taken the densest part of this picture to show that in the grid of squares of uniform size, one cannot count more than 500 persons in a square. Let us take other major daily newspaper pictures also along with this to understand the dimensions of the road occupied by the marchers and the density of the crowd.

 

Jorugaa Kavaathu, Eenadu Photo

 

Vaartha’s Photograph

This is the photograph published by Vaartha.

You can see PV Jnanabhoomi on the far left side of the picture. Just a bit after the end of the Jnanabhoomi, the march has tailed off.

 

Kavaathu, Vaartha Photo

Jana Uppena, Vaartha Photo

On the far right side of the photograph you will find the stage, and an inset that shows the photograph of the stage from where Prof Kodandaram, Chairman of the Political JAC is seen addressing the gathering.

You can see a row of trees on the border of the Necklace Road that runs parallel to the railway track. The last tree at the end of the row towards the left is in the midst of the venue. If you zoom in on the picture, from there onwards the crowd begins to get thinner and thinner. Observe the density of the crowd on the road opposite PV Jnanabhoomi. You will find it very thin.

The crowd is dense only in the area that is between the stage and the tree that I mentioned.

Andhra Jyothi’s Pictures

Look at this picture carried by Andhra Jyothi, with a caption ‘Rana Garjana’.

Andhra Jyothi, Rana Garjana

Andhra Jyothi’s Rana Garjana

This picture gives you a better view. On the far right, you can see the stage very clearly. You can also clearly  see the tree point I’m mentioning. It is right next to the index finger of Prof Kodandaram whose picture is in the inset here. You can see that as you move to the left from there the crowd becomes thinner and tapers off at the far left edge of PV Jnanabhoomi. You can also notice that behind the stage, there were only a handful of people. Probably they were organisers or those who looked after the logistics.

Now, look at this:

Andhra Jyothi’s Rana Garjana

This picture is even clearer. It is from the same publication but this time without the inset picture of Prof Kodandaram.

You can clearly see the thinning of the crowd from the tree as you go further left. In fact you can also see several vehicles parked there. Zoom in to get a better view. Those of you who are in the habit of strenuous defence of the T agitation can perhaps even count the persons. The crowd is actually that thin.

Sakshi’s Photograph

Sakshi carried this picture:

Porettina Jana Sagaram, Sakshi

Showing this kind of a kind of a crowd, the newspaper chose to print on the photograph a caption describing the crowd as ‘sea’.

This picture also gives a view that confirms our earlier observation that the densest part of the venue is from the dais to the tree-point that we identified earlier. In this picture also you will find that as they ‘march’ towards PV Jnanabhoomi, the crowd increasingly wears thin. This picture also clearly shows the stage, and also the elevated place where the tv cameras were placed.

Namaste Telangan’s Picture

Now let us look at the picture published by the Patron Saint of the separatist propaganda machinery, Namaste Telangana.

Jana Saagaram, Namaste Telangana

The captions bear no relation to the crowd shown in the photograph.

This photograph shows even the drying laundry near the railway track. More importantly, it clearly shows, very candidly, that the crowd is indeed thin as you move towards left and towards the Jnanabhoomi.

This is the situation as far as the crowd and its density is concerned.

To recap: the most densely occupied area was from the dais to the tree-point. From there the density gradually wears off and becomes very sparse as you reach points opposite PV Jnanabhoomi and tapers off as you go beyond that.

One more point needs to be noted here. The venue of the March was not the entire 4.5 kilometre stretch of the Necklace but only between the dais which was erected near Sonee Food Court astride the two lanes of the road and a little beyond PV Jnanabhoomi.
In other words, it is from the point where there was a broad island-like divider between the two lanes of the road and ends a little after PV Jnanabhoomi. The dais faced in the direction towards Jnanabhoomi.

Length of the Necklace Road Occupied By Marchers

Now, let us look at the length of the road that was occupied buy the marchers.

Here is the Google map, which captures the road from the point where the makeshift dais was erected. As you can see the distance measurements (ground length from point to point) are also by Google. I have given the screen shots below.

Necklace Road, Length Measure 1

This one above shows the distance between the point where the makeshift dais was erected, past the tree-point and stops slightly short of PV Jnanabhoomi. Google maps measures the ground length from point to point (marked red) as 819.53 feet.

Necklace Road, Length Measurement 2

And from that 819.53 point to the point which is beyond the end point of PV Jnanabhoomi, it measures 487.19 feet.

Thus the total length of the Necklace Road the marchers occupied, albeit with varying density, is 1306.72 feet.

Width of the Necklace Road Occupied By Marchers

Now, let us look at the width of the road. Its width is not uniform. Therefore, let’s measure it at 4 different points.

Necklace Road Width Measure 1

This picture above shows the measurement at the starting point of the venue, close to the dais. It measures, as you can see, 95.25 feet.

Necklace Road, Width Measure 2

At the second point the road width measures, as you can see, 161.03 feet. This is actually the widest point of the venue.

Necklace Road, Width Measure 3

The third point measures 140.57 feet. This point is almost near the far end of PV Jnanabhoomi.

Necklace Road, Width Measurement 4

The last point measures 78.88 feet. This is the narrowest part of the stretch occupied by the marchers.

If you take the average of the entire stretch which has varying width, it comes to 118.93 feet.

Total Area Occupied

Therefore, the total area the marchers occupied on 30 September 2012 for Telangana March is 1,55,408.20 square feet.

If we try and fit in 30 persons per 100 square feet, uniformly all over this area, then the number could have been slightly under 47,000

The Most Crowded Area

But we have clearly seen that it is only the stretch that falls between the dais and the tree-point that has the densest crowd. If you look at the first map which marks 819.53 feet length, you will notice that the distance between the dais and the tree is about a third of that. That is, therefore, 273.17 feet.

If we take the average width of the road between these two points, it is 128.14 feet.

That brings the area occupied by the crowd at its densest to 34,004.00 square feet.

If we take 30 people per 100 square feet, then at the densest area the crowd was just around 10,500. Even those that are stuck with the lift car measurements will not be able to put more than 30 people per 100 square feet. If they take a bit of liberty, maybe they can add another five and say 35 per 100 square feet. Even with that kind of licence, they will not able to go beyond 12,250. Can they?

Rest of the Area

The rest of the area is progressively thin in crowds. Everybody could have their own guess on how many people were there per 100 square feet in the rest of the area other than the 34004.00 square feet. One thing is clear that there can, by no stretch of imagination, be more than 30 persons per 100 square feet. In fact, there are much less than half of that number for anyone to see.

Generous Estimate

Most generous observer could put another 10,500 in the rest of the area. And the most ardently inspired separatist could double that up and put 20,000 there.

That would total the crowd to somewhere between 20,000 and 30,000.

That is the most generous figure.

If anyone wants to imagine a bigger crowd, they can take a call.

We can’t stop anyone from hallucinating. Can we?

27 Responses to “Deconstructing Telangana March”

  1. October 11, 2012 at 8:13 pm #

    All these things are fact.but blind ppl may not agree to see ,to listen ..its totally utter flop show.telangana ppl totally cheated by these stupid leaders from telangana region.

  2. October 11, 2012 at 8:35 pm #

    superb analysis parakala garu.. But separatists and logic will not go together.

  3. October 11, 2012 at 8:36 pm #

    dont fool urself,this website created only for spiting poison on telangana movement rather then social,economic and business,All ur articals showing finger at telangana movement,first learn how to write articals rather then getting cheap publicity,first you convince ur family people on telangana then comment on telangana march,iam asking straight forward question u have to give straight answer why u people separated from madrass,when ur movement was true and fair why you peopl stopping us……first u shoud write a artical on samikyandhra march show thr photos in evry photo one fellow should be thr tht is kishore (samaikyandhra vidyarthi jac) ha ha ha ha this ur andhra march total people may not more then 100 …. like in telugu film,i feeling very bad to see this kind of people still living in india, vuroo goppa peru dibba,

    • January 26, 2013 at 7:20 pm #

      You want to pick up any blunder in the argument made out by the author of the article, you may do so. Instead why do you blabber things that are not relevant to the topic? I can prove how shallow are your arguments. There are movements in a number of places in North East and kashmir for separation out of India. But there is no counter agitation anywhere in rest of India. So can we say that rest of India does not want to remain as one country?

  4. October 11, 2012 at 9:43 pm #

    when any one seen this photo even expert also tell you that this artical written by mentally ill person and this person got telangana disease, from this disease he will never come out….

    • October 12, 2012 at 1:23 pm #

      who are the experts? kodandaram, vimalakka or pidamarthi ravi?

    • January 26, 2013 at 7:21 pm #

      Ha Haa! It looks like people like yu were all bitten by the same rabid dog!

  5. October 12, 2012 at 1:17 am #

    Police kept Barricades both sides and didn’t allowed people other than that barricades and many people were arrested outside Hyderabad and in Hyderabad.. if govt would have given permission more than 2 crores people may attend..i think you are big sadist that is why PRP party and BJP party kicked you.

    • October 12, 2012 at 1:21 pm #

      2 crores? 😀 lol at your stupidity. that is 2.5 times to hyd population in necklace road.

      jai, could u analyse how many can fit per sq ft in this case.

    • October 23, 2012 at 3:47 pm #

      తమ్ముడూ,

      నీ మెదడు పడైపాయింది. ప్రతి 100 మంది తెలంగాణా ప్రజలలో 78 మంది మీ కుహనా వేర్పాటు వాదుల్ని తిడుతున్నారు. ఒక్కసారి సామాన్య ప్రజానీకాన్ని ప్రశ్నించిచూడు. వాళ్ళకు అభివృద్ధి కావాలి. దొరతనం లేని పచ్చని పల్లె సీమలు కావాలి. మీ బందులతో, మార్చ్ లతో, సకలజనుల సమ్మెలతో విసిగి పోయారు. క్వార్టర్ విస్కీ/ బిర్యానీ ప్యాకెట్ మీకిచ్చి కవాతులు, సమ్మెలు చేపించి , మీ కుహనా నాయకులు వ్యాపారులను బెదిరించి కోట్లు సంపాదిస్తున్నారు. ఇకనైనా మేలుకో నా సోదరా !

      • December 9, 2012 at 2:15 pm #

        Mee Seemandhrulantha “Meka Vanne Pululu”. Nee pere oka udhaharana.

        • January 26, 2013 at 7:33 pm #

          People like you are losers by birth and blame every one else in this world for all your real or imagined ills. People like you have neither the competence nor the will to put in the hard work necessary to attain success and prosperity. The only simplest way for people of you kind i to call others names. Otherwise how can we explain your stupid remark categorising highly diversified group of seemandhra people into one category. Change your mid set or else you will remain only as a loser and free loader.

  6. October 12, 2012 at 10:20 am #

    Superb aalysis done in detail. An eye opener to the Separatists. Separatists instead of simply making nonsese should try to uderstand what is fact and follow accordingly. One should realise that the Police keeping barricades and stopping studets at OU are for the safety of Hyderabad property only and not to stop attend to the meet. Those who are sincere to attend have attended in different ways.

  7. October 12, 2012 at 11:54 am #

    mee lanti fatoo galaku em telustadi people movement ayna meku pani bataa ledu ra,epudu chusina maa meeda padtaru hyd telangana jaagir, me thata lu digee vachna telangananu apaaleru,elanti articals rasukoni santhosham kandi, anthe me valla inka emi kaadu maa sanka naaku kunta kalise untanantaru merem manusulu ra babu veretolu aithe machine daram thoti uree veskoni sastunde,meru first me life lo elanti march chestaraa? no mee kalalo kuda jaragadu police lante ucha posukuntaru me dharnalalo chudaleda.

  8. October 12, 2012 at 8:56 pm #

    Very logical analyses. But it is like blowing a conch near a stone deaf person. I give up.No point in trying to reason with a closed mind. God only can save them..

  9. October 15, 2012 at 7:56 am #

    Grest post. It helps people (like me) who are not a direct witness to those rallies size up the happenings accurately. It also shows despite all pretenstions to contrary T movement is the movement of rich bullies who can force print and television media to remain deferential to their causes. Look at KCR involved in so called “negotiations” – all of them secret to general public. what he is trading off for what gains ? no one knows but if you ask from any public platform you will be showered with abuses.

    what a despicalble “movement”

  10. October 15, 2012 at 11:40 pm #

    if u andhrites really have guts and dare post any analysis of Samaikyandhra maarch or Samaikyandhra udyamam analysis any year any month.. then discuss about telangana maarch, dareless fellows.. dont guts to talk telangana vs Samaikyandhra udyamam and u ppl posting mindless analysis only sadist people posts these type of posts, even Britishers also didn’t post these type of falthu analysis.. if u people really think 90 percent people Samaikyandhra the atleast keep one Samaikyandhra sabha or bandha atleast for half day or atleast 6 hrs in telangana including hyderabad then we agree there is no telangana sentiment frankly..

  11. October 18, 2012 at 10:06 pm #

    Good effort on analysis. But the fact that you took so much pain in analyzing the size of the crowd during telangana march speaks about your insecurity.

    • October 19, 2012 at 3:11 pm #

      setting facts is not insecurity but defending lies., which T vaadis are doing

      • October 23, 2012 at 2:25 am #

        Satya, I’m not saying that those are not facts. My question is why do you have analyze the numbers in so much detail to prove that there is less T support? We all know that scores of people were arrested or prevented to enter Hyd to attend this march. Then what’s the use in analyzing the numbers at the end of the day and conclude that there is less T sentiment. Ignoring the fact of police restrictions in this piece of analysis and drawing conclusions is mischievous and I think this comes form insecurity. This leads people reading the article to a fool’s paradise. I’m a supporter of Telangana state but I also know that there is a lot of support for United AP in other regions of the state. Just because there is no mass movement in HYD for United AP doesn’t mean that everyone in HYD is in support of Telangana. Face the reality friend. You can’t gauge the pulse of a movement just by analyzing the numbers on a street.

        • October 24, 2012 at 2:15 pm #

          Agree that the pulse of the people cannot be guaged by counting the numbers on the street/dharna etc., We have seen it time and again. Recent example-people thronged to Chiranjeevi meetings, but erst while PRP, congress candidates lost the elections.

          Having said that, it is important to debunk any lies that are floating around as truths. Especially with respect to T-movement. If you ignore these lies, within a few weeks/months they become gospel truths. From that point of view, I commend the effort of Parakala Garu and others who proved that the numbers quoted by TJAC and TRS (especially when they are naked lies) are just hokum. The fact is that at the maximum a crowd of 30,000 attended the march. If TRS and TJAC agree to the real number and still wish to continue with their movement, so be it. But the moment they start talking lies by quoting 1 lakh, 2 lakh, 10 lakhs, 1 crore etc., that should be debunked beyond doubt.

  12. October 27, 2012 at 12:52 am #

    Ram,
    I myself have commended Mr. Prabhakar’s analysis in gauging the numbers. But, “A half-truth is the most cowardly of lies”. He has quoted all the major Telugu dailies in analyzing the data. But he conveniently ignored the other parts of the news that dealt in detail, the ways in which police restricted people from joining the march. There were check posts and barricades setup all over the city to restrict people. There were even incidents of lathicharge. OU was ceased. People coming from other districts were stopped. Trains and buses were cancelled. Even Private buses and vehicles were stopped from entering HYD. All these were reported in the same dailies Mr. Prabhakar has quoted with visual proof. But he conveniently ignores them from the equation and sarcastically/mischievously/arrogantly titles his article as “If That is Their Best Effort, Then You Know What It Is”. As I previously stated, everyone has the right to their opinion and I respect that. But, ridiculing others on the basis of half truths? Sucks brother. This stands for every one whether pro Telangana or pro UAP. If anyone had lied about the numbers, Mr. Prabhakar could have just debunked them with his analysis. What’s the need for ridiculing them based on half truths.
    BTW Mr. Prabhakar, what do you mean by “Their” in the title? I thought Vishalandhra Mahasabha represented all Telugus. Why are you dividing them as “They” and “Us”

  13. November 1, 2012 at 1:37 pm #

    Poultry farmer injured in ‘T’ March dies

    http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Hyderabad/poultry-farmer-injured-in-t-march-dies/article4032032.ece

  14. November 6, 2012 at 2:55 pm #

    As a self appointed expert of crowd estimation, you may like to analyze the crowd at Nitish Kumar’s Adhikar Rally at Patna.

    http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/other-states/centre-discriminating-against-bihar-nitish/article4064586.ece

  15. November 19, 2012 at 3:45 pm #

    How big is Shivaji Park? How many people attended Bal Thackeray’s funeral?

  16. December 8, 2012 at 2:02 am #

    Parakala garu and friends, please take a look at this link.

    http://missiontelangana.com/telangana-march-parakala-twisted-analysis/

  17. February 17, 2013 at 9:35 pm #

    For analysis of crowd numbers, one should look at marathon photos, if you get aerial ones… In SCMM, the entire sealink gets full at the start of half-marathon. It is quite a long bridge, and the total participants in this half marathon are around 20k

    Cheers

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